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[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 05:40, 20 February 2017 (PST)
[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 05:40, 20 February 2017 (PST)
:No, those are typos. I wasn't sure what to name the files for parts that aren't part of a set. If you think those names are better, go ahead and move them. How should we name the hairstyles? They're not part of set, and I think some images are already used as preview for the hairstyle boards, using the "Preview - name" naming scheme. If those images are the same, should we rename those, or upload them separately? Also, I saw the table has a gender column, but wouldn't it be better to put the different genders in separate tabs? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 10:14, 20 February 2017 (PST)
:No, those are typos. I wasn't sure what to name the files for parts that aren't part of a set. If you think those names are better, go ahead and move them. How should we name the hairstyles? They're not part of set, and I think some images are already used as preview for the hairstyle boards, using the "Preview - name" naming scheme. If those images are the same, should we rename those, or upload them separately? Also, I saw the table has a gender column, but wouldn't it be better to put the different genders in separate tabs? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 10:14, 20 February 2017 (PST)
::We could, but if we get sortable working it would allow us to compare the gender versions of outfits. For hairstyles, I was going to treat them as H-NAME or SET-H-NAME. At least when I was tooling around, it was supposed to be based on Set, not Board.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 15:41, 20 February 2017 (PST)

Revision as of 16:41, 20 February 2017

I'm making this based on the 358 Mission on KHWiki. Can you help me design the templates and revise color schemes? I'm going to make a first pass at the main infobox, so if you could start the navbox and then take a look at my work it would be very much appreciated.KrytenKoro (talk) 14:15, 20 April 2016 (EDT)

Do we have a list of all missions with name? What color scheme are we using? Should we go with the same color scheme as the Keyblade template (and KHWiki's Sitenotice), or something else? TheSilentHero (talk) 14:25, 20 April 2016 (EDT)
With name, no. That'll have to be done by hand, but I have all the story missions unlocked so I can work on it. Please take a look at the infobox I made -- tabs still don't work, but the color scheme definitely needs a revamp (probably Daybreak colors to contrast the Twilight colors).KrytenKoro (talk) 15:17, 20 April 2016 (EDT)
Oh, wait. The world articles list the mission names.KrytenKoro (talk) 15:17, 20 April 2016 (EDT)
How's this color scheme? I started the mission nav, but the world articles don't list Missions 4-14, and any missions part 102. And we'll have to move all the Mission articles. TheSilentHero (talk) 14:03, 21 April 2016 (EDT)
Audo from KHInsider released a list with the names from the first 200 missions: http://forums.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-unchained/210799-eng-unchained-faq.html. You can find it under "Story Quests". --ShardofTruth (talk) 15:02, 21 April 2016 (EDT)

Game Graphics

Hello, i am curious about how do you get graphics like the Keyblade images or enemies. I want to help by extracting Medal Graphics from the game, but i have no idea how or what program is necessary to do that. - Kikuhime

You should ask ShardofTruth about that. He's the one who got all the images. TheSilentHero (talk) 13:54, 23 April 2016 (EDT)

Template Bug

I am having some trouble trying to visualize some of the medals, for example, while editing Cid's medal page, i get this problem where the tab layout would duplicate and i can't see the other medals. http://imgur.com/INWhumh

Also, in pages that feature a single medal image (e.g. Fairy Godmother), the template it's too wide. It's the medal template going to be fixed or changed anytime soon? http://imgur.com/Hw7rQKS

-Kikuhime

For the tabs, it's better to use the following code:
<div class="tabber goright" style="width:350px">
<div class="tabbertab" title="(1)">
Infobox 1
</div><div class="tabbertab" title="(2)">
Infobox 2
</div><div class="tabbertab" title="(3)">
Infobox 3
</div></div>
Where (1), (2), and (3) are replaced with the text in the tabs. You can add more tabs by adding more "tabbertab"s. Just be sure to always finish with two s. (The first is for closing the "tabbertab" and the second for closing the "tabber".)
For the medal images, instead of using thumb, it's better to give it a size (I used 330px for the Cid and Fairy Godmother ones). TheSilentHero 13:59, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
TSH, I've started a new draft for medals here. I've listed remaining work to be done on the talk page, could you help me implement it and point out any other needs?KrytenKoro (talk) 11:09, 13 May 2016 (PDT)
I would like to help, but I have no idea how the stats and levels and such work... TheSilentHero 11:19, 13 May 2016 (PDT)

Avatar Stat board

Yo TSH! Do you think you could design a template to to display the avatar board stats? I would, but I have no idea how I would go about that, I don't have a creative mind like that. Thanks a bunch. ^^ Chainoffire (talk) 23:53, 3 May 2016 (PDT)

Sure, if you can tell me what stats they have. TheSilentHero 23:57, 3 May 2016 (PDT)
  • Board name/gender
  • Board image
  • Board unlock requirements
  • For nodes:
    • Node icon
    • Node name/reward
    • Node cost
    • Pathing

KrytenKoro (talk) 18:16, 5 May 2016 (PDT)

How exactly should the pathing be done? Like the Ability Link Boards? Also, do you have screenshots of other boards? TheSilentHero 10:16, 6 May 2016 (PDT)
Here's, y'know, everything.KrytenKoro (talk) 18:13, 6 May 2016 (PDT)
I don't know if the pathing can be correctly replicated with the tools we can use here, all that is constant are the boards' sizes, the position of the start button and the avatar board image in the upper left corner. The nodes can only appear at specific locations, these are shown in the premium boards which have the maximum amount of 19 possible nodes: http://i.imgur.com/SxSuuWR.png. Obviously a node can connect to a maximum of four other nodes but how the paths between them is drawn is dependend on the position of the next node and if there are other nodes obscuring the path. There are another 19 possible places for path pieces plus the places for nodes that are not taken with seven possible path forms. --ShardofTruth (talk) 09:43, 7 May 2016 (PDT)
I decided to not do the pathing, as it would be very difficult and kind of redundant because of the screenshots. I made the template and tested it here. What do you think? TheSilentHero 10:50, 7 May 2016 (PDT)
This looks very good. Do you think adding the board's number is redundant (since it's in the headline) or should it be in there as well? To make it also work for the Coliseum and Event boards the "Title Banner" column should be renamed to "Completion Reward" (or something like that) since some boards don't give titles but medals. Also instead of a "both" gender option there should be "none" instead.
This has nothing to do with the template but I would suggest to always remove the player information from the top and bottom, only showing the actual board. --ShardofTruth (talk) 13:46, 7 May 2016 (PDT)
I think "both" is better than "none", since it is for both genders. TheSilentHero 13:55, 7 May 2016 (PDT)
I added an optional parameter for the board number, as the event boards don't have one, as far as I can see. I also made it so adding the "reward" parameter changes the Title Banner space to Completion Reward. TheSilentHero 10:45, 9 May 2016 (PDT)
If we can get screenshots for every node either completed or unstarted, then yeah, we don't need pathing. However, I would like to second that we should strip out the header and footer bars.KrytenKoro (talk) 11:52, 9 May 2016 (PDT)
I think we should use the images where all nodes still have to be bought, as it also shows the costs in the image. TheSilentHero 06:25, 14 May 2016 (PDT)
Main question is, can we get them for all the event and coliseum boards?
Also, the only boards I know of that are both-gendered are the Coliseum and Event Bonus boards. Avatar Boards themselves are never double-gendered.KrytenKoro (talk) 13:20, 14 May 2016 (PDT)
I assumed that, since some Boards had Male and Female in their name, all others were double-gendered. TheSilentHero 10:56, 15 May 2016 (PDT)
The "Male" and "Female" in brackets is not official, these boards are simply called the same in the NA version while there is a "M_" and "L_" identifier in the JP version. Costumes that use different names for the male and female versions of a costume don't have such an identifier. In the end boards that give costume pieces are either male or female (also shown by the small icon in the upper right corner of the board's image) while boards that just give medals are neither. --ShardofTruth (talk) 03:28, 16 May 2016 (PDT)
Tiny suggestion, when the boards are single-gendered, it might be better to have the pink/blue icons rather than the M/F sign since the pink/blue icons are actually used ingame. Chainoffire (talk) 01:30, 17 May 2016 (PDT)
Do we have these icons uploaded on the wiki somewhere? TheSilentHero 09:54, 17 May 2016 (PDT)

I've added the icons here and here, maybe we should put those in a template to refer to these boards in other instances like the titles too? Also as a user has noted, we need a 5 HP and 20 HP option, there seems to be no sense or order behind it, it's just that way for no particular reason. The JP version also added an material node with the new Goofy boards (not in the NA version), I'll try to get the icon. --ShardofTruth (talk) 01:16, 21 May 2016 (PDT)

I made {{GenderIcon}}, so they can be used for other things too. I added a HP5 option to the Avatar Board template, which changes the description to 5 HP. I don't know which boards use these, so if you could check the ones that are already on the page, that would be great. (If you want, could you also check that the boards with multiple avatar/medal rewards have these in the right order?)
Also, just so you know, when uploading an image and using the Kingdom Hearts Wiki template, you don't need to add the name of the file anymore. I fixed the template to do that automatically. TheSilentHero 04:49, 21 May 2016 (PDT)
Thanks and for all it's worth if a board only gives 5 HP nodes all of them will have this value. --ShardofTruth (talk) 04:56, 21 May 2016 (PDT)
What do you think is the better solution: Simply use another template for the Coliseum and Event Boards so that the coins are changed accordingly or somehow switch it in the normal Avatar Board template? Either way, maybe they should use a different color scheme too. --ShardofTruth (talk) 06:53, 21 May 2016 (PDT)
The colors and coin now change depending on the style parameter. No style parameter is needed for regular Avatar Boards. TheSilentHero 10:18, 21 May 2016 (PDT)
Wow, this looks great. :D --ShardofTruth (talk) 11:35, 21 May 2016 (PDT)

Keyblade Friend medals

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-97muLpBxhEdFlMaS-x2Lz9tutmVi_-oAzzK4T3HxMM/edit#gid=0

Board names

From this edit, it looks like you have a certain way you want to go with those redirects. Is this correct? If so, can you correct the links on King Mickey and the KHWiki?KrytenKoro (talk) 13:09, 14 June 2016 (PDT)

I think we should name the redirects the same as the section on the Avatar Board page, to be consistent. Unless you want to keep the gender icons, but I prefer not to, since you can't use those symbols when searching the wiki. TheSilentHero 13:36, 14 June 2016 (PDT)
Okay. Can you fix it on the KHWiki to how you want it, then?KrytenKoro (talk) 13:38, 14 June 2016 (PDT)
Sure. TheSilentHero 13:39, 14 June 2016 (PDT)

InfoMedal mod

I modified the infomedal template because the attribute icons just wouldn't fit in the attribute cell. The two options I've made are Template:InfoMedal and Template:InfoMedal/Draft. Please give your input on which you prefer here.KrytenKoro (talk) 11:04, 15 June 2016 (PDT)

5★ Evolve Medals

You changed an Item Prize 2 to an Item Prize 1 when updating the coding. Just to check, was this intentional?KrytenKoro (talk) 12:46, 6 July 2016 (PDT)

No. Must have been a typo. TheSilentHero 14:12, 6 July 2016 (PDT)

Premium

"Limited-Time Avatar Board" is the only nomenclature I can find, from the Zootopia boards. Do we have an in-game source for "Premium", or is that just a fandom term?

Also, the date tag that I had for Cloud and Yuffie would organize those by release date. Is that causing any issues that we had to replace it?KrytenKoro (talk) 10:13, 12 July 2016 (PDT)

Since we use the term Premium Boards on the Avatar Board page, I assumed it was an official term. As for the date, since pages are grouped by the first number, it would place them in-between the regular boards, which is why I changed it. Unless we want a separate category for Limited-Time/Premium boards. TheSilentHero 10:27, 12 July 2016 (PDT)
I guess add "LT" before it?KrytenKoro (talk) 05:50, 13 July 2016 (PDT)
Yeah, that works. And we can use "E" for the Event Boards and "P" for the boards you have to buy with jewels (are those called Premium?) TheSilentHero 07:07, 13 July 2016 (PDT)
I've not seen an official source for Premium. "Limited-Time Avatar Board" is all I've seen.KrytenKoro (talk) 11:25, 21 July 2016 (PDT)

enemy galleries

Should we convert those to auto-sorting templates, as with the materials in the quest infoboxes?KrytenKoro (talk) 11:02, 1 August 2016 (PDT)

Probably. Do we have some sort of order for the enemies? TheSilentHero 11:03, 1 August 2016 (PDT)

Raid Bosses

Do you need any help summoning/killing those raid bosses?KrytenKoro (talk) 07:16, 11 August 2016 (PDT)

What raid bosses? TheSilentHero 07:21, 11 August 2016 (PDT)

Coliseum infobox

Can you modify the second tab so that it uses these variable names, and displays the rewards similarly to the tier bonuses:


|rk1=1 - 1000 |rk1scrooge51=3 |rk1skill1=Attack Boost II |rk1moogle6=3 |rk2=1001 - 10000 |rk2scrooge51=2 |rk2skill1=Attack Boost II |rk2moogle6=2 |rk3=10001 - 50000 |rk3scrooge51=1 |rk3skill1=Attack Boost II |rk3moogle6=1

?KrytenKoro (talk) 07:27, 6 September 2016 (PDT)

Also, do you think we should have a HSC version of the Quest infobox, so that regular pages don't have to deal with the unneeded code?KrytenKoro (talk) 07:43, 6 September 2016 (PDT)
Done. We need to decide a naming scheme for the avatar parts, though, as they are inconsistently named right now. Should I do the same for the HSC rewards?
EDIT: Minor change. The scrooge code now uses |rk1scrooge5= and rk1skill5=. Are there any months that give away scrooges of the same rarity with different skills?
EDIT2: Never mind. You can now use either scrooge5= or scrooge51=. TheSilentHero 10:42, 6 September 2016 (PDT)
The template works great but could you add another bonus board? The first Tier 10 board has to be added to May and the Japanese version generally also has two. --ShardofTruth (talk) 11:07, 8 September 2016 (PDT)
Done. TheSilentHero 11:11, 8 September 2016 (PDT)

Can you get on FB chat?

Got a question for you, but it's not wiki-related.KrytenKoro (talk) 20:24, 6 September 2016 (PDT)

Medals

Are we uploading KHI images still, or are we using the rips now?KrytenKoro (talk) 11:33, 17 October 2016 (PDT)

We're still using the KHI ones. TheSilentHero 12:47, 17 October 2016 (PDT)

Just checking

Just checking, 'cause the usage seemed consistent:

  • Choclate Cake Chapeu
  • Stacked Charaters-A-Stacked Reynn & Serafie
  • Stacked Charaters-A-Stacked Lann & Tama

Are those spellings intentional?

Also, should these?

  • Cheshire Cat Ears-A-Cheshire Cat Ears
  • Winnie the Pooh Ears-A-Winnie the Pooh Ears
  • Clarice Snuggly & Clarice Beret-A-Clarice Beret

instead be

  • Cheshire Cat Ears-A-Ears
  • Winnie the Pooh Ears-A-Ears
  • Clarice Snuggly & Clarice Beret-A-Beret

KrytenKoro (talk) 05:40, 20 February 2017 (PST)

No, those are typos. I wasn't sure what to name the files for parts that aren't part of a set. If you think those names are better, go ahead and move them. How should we name the hairstyles? They're not part of set, and I think some images are already used as preview for the hairstyle boards, using the "Preview - name" naming scheme. If those images are the same, should we rename those, or upload them separately? Also, I saw the table has a gender column, but wouldn't it be better to put the different genders in separate tabs? TheSilentHero 10:14, 20 February 2017 (PST)
We could, but if we get sortable working it would allow us to compare the gender versions of outfits. For hairstyles, I was going to treat them as H-NAME or SET-H-NAME. At least when I was tooling around, it was supposed to be based on Set, not Board.KrytenKoro (talk) 15:41, 20 February 2017 (PST)